The Ultimate Distro Showdown: Ubuntu 9.10 vs openSUSE 11.2 vs Mandriva 2010

We laid our hands on all the three biggies—Ubuntu 9.10, Mandriva 2010 and openSUSE 11.2—and pitted them against each other. What followed was the battle of the century, as each distro pulled off one unique trick after another to stay on top of the game.

Ladies and gentlemen, behold, as we bring out the next generation of Linux-based operating systems, and try to find out which one has that little extra to make the cut as the best of the best!

The hardware

  • Processor: AMD Phenom X3 8650 @ 2.3GHz
  • Chipset: Nvidia MCP67 (nForce 630a)
  • Graphics Processor: Nvidia GeForce 9400GT with 1GB of GDDR2 RAM
  • RAM: 2GB of DDR2 800MHz Transcend JetRAM
  • Hard Disk: Seagate Barracuda 320GB/Western Digital Caviar 160GB (hosts the OS)
  • Screen: 15” TFT with a resolution of 1024×768

That’s a pretty respectable multimedia PC, except for the rather small screen size. However, it shouldn’t matter, because if the UI looks cluttered on my monitor, then the UI design is bad. Anyway, with the hardware specs behind us, it’s time to move on to the first distro of this review—Ubuntu 9.10.

Ubuntu 9.10—The Koala screams for attention

The Koala may have been the most publicised and talked about release of this month, something like the Linux 2.0 (a la the Web 2.0) for home users, aiming for a level of polish in its user interface hitherto unseen in the world of GNU/Linux. Apart from features like KMS and GRUB2, Mark Shuttleworth had considered ditching the yellow-brown colour palette for something new. Changes like ditching Pidgin for Empathy, which were rather radical at the time of the announcement, dismayed many Ubuntu fans.

Yet, Ubuntu has made it big. The user interface, though a bit loud in its shade of lemon yellow, is laudable (see Figure 1). It’s the same old GNOME though, and at version 2.28, a bit cleaner than the previous releases. In fact, I don’t know if it’s just me or it’s the Ubuntu customisations, but I did stumble a bit after the first boot into GNOME 2.28.

Figure 1: Ubuntu 9.10 desktop after installation

Figure 1: Ubuntu 9.10 desktop after installation

Continuing about the downside of Ubuntu 9.10, KMS and GRUB2 also came as big disappointments to me. Since I have an Nvidia GeForce card, KMS didn’t work at all (and sample this, an interview on Phronix says that Nvidia has no immediate plans to introduce KMS support into their drivers) and that, along with GRUB2, made for a very unpleasant boot indeed. It seems that the developers put so much effort into developing the KMS experience that they neglected the non-KMS sector. And considering that KMS is fully supported only on Intel chipsets, and a lion’s share of users use Nvidia and ATI cards, that’s a very bad decision indeed. Even Fedora was better than this.

Now for the good things… Empathy. Pidgin, heralded as the irreplaceable chat client in the world of both Linux and Windows, has finally met its match, and it seems our little bird flew away to the Empathetic competition. Empathy has come a long way since its introduction and is now a pleasure to use—and it’s certainly better than Pidgin, considering its support for rich chat features like voice and video.

The next unique offering is the Ubuntu Software Centre (Figure 2). Rather than use Synaptic by default for package management, it’s hidden away for the advanced users. For the layman, the Ubuntu Software Centre acts rather like an app store (except that there’s only free software here). Once you open it up, there’s a screen with lots of sections. Let’s say you want to install Amarok, which you know is an audio player. So you click on Sound And Video. From the listing, select Amarok. An arrow will appear in the selection, on the right side. Click on it. A mini-review of the software will appear, briefly describing it, along with a screenshot. Below it, there’s a button. Click on it to install. Simple, isn’t it?

Figure 2: Ubuntu Software Centre—a one-stop app store

Figure 2: Ubuntu Software Centre—a one-stop app store

Ubuntu also holds the distinction of being the first distribution to pay attention to those finer details that differentiate the polish of, say, Mac OS X and Windows to the crudeness of Linux. Packing in more smooth transition effects, extra wallpapers, visual styles and fonts than ever, users are now spoilt for choice (but weren’t we before?) over how to make their system look. Coming to looks, Ubuntu has now adopted the Dust colour scheme in the Human theme, with Dark Chocolate Brown window borders and selections, and off-white panels and bars with a slight chocolate hue. Nice colour palette, but I’d rather stick with the Dust theme. There’s a new icon scheme as well, called Humanity, but I don’t know if it’s just with me but many icons don’t appear in the Places menu and none in the Systems menu. Apart from this, Humanity is another revolutionary icon theme with mind-blowing icons. Overall, it’s a pleasure to actually work in this distro.

Now it’s time for Kubuntu. At first glance, it’s the same boot from Jaunty, and the stock KDE 4.3.2 without any customisations (see Figure 3). But look again and it’s a whole new story. It’s KMS here too, but this time KMS is a lot more subtle and at least the boot on non-KMS machines looks as good, if not better, than in Jaunty. With KMS on VirtualBox, those transition effects and the flicker-free boot experience did wonders. Boot into KDE4, and the KDM theme just blows you away. Enter your login details and you’ll be looking at the prettiest stock KDE4 you have ever seen. And mind you, KDE looks best in its stock theme. Change the looks even a tiny bit and you’ll cause a major wardrobe malfunction (or fashion disaster, however you want to put it)!

Figure 2: Live Kubuntu desktop with the Kickoff menu and µBlog widget

Figure 2: Live Kubuntu desktop with the Kickoff menu and µBlog widget

Kubuntu’s installer is another brilliant feature. A full screen image background modelled on the Air theme, with an installer wizard in the centre, guides you through the system installation.

I had a few complaints about Ubuntu, but have none for Kubuntu! None, except for font-rendering issues with OpenOffice.org, but I’m pretty sure that’s because of the fact that OOo is running under Qt. OOo never did like Qt!

About Boudhayan Gupta

The author is a 15-year-old student who suffers from an acute psychological disorder called Distromania. He owes his life to Larry Page and Sergei Brin. Apart from that, he enjoys both reading and writing, and when he's not playing with his Python, during most of his spare time he can be found listening to Fort Minor or cooking.

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28 Comments

  • r_j_l
    January 5, 2010 | Permalink |

    With Ubuntu installation you say that 95% had problems, I personally find this hard to accept as I have done five installations/upgrades (Karmic 64bit) here and no issues at all. This includes a blend of older and newer hardware on both desktops and laptops. Just my two cents worth!

    An interesting read though, in my case I prefer a small iso download and then add to it what I need which still works out to have a smaller download overall that a 4Gb iso file.

    I would like to try both of Suse and Mandriva but the filesize alone is a real put off. I am cautious to use my bandwidth when I have had nothing but issues with both of them with previous versions

  • gregCall
    January 5, 2010 | Permalink |

    Great job. Very well writen I must say. You only made a couple of comments I want to reply to. 1 – Mandriva setting up kde4 to look and act more like Kde3 isnt such a horrible choice as you made it out to be. Many people myself included actually prefered Kde3 to kde4 and as Kde3 has reached the end of its support modifying kde4 to work like Kde3 probably pleased a lot of people. 2 – Deb are no better than Rpm packages. True in the late 90s Rpm had some dependancy issues but that is way in the past. This Deb vs Rpm kind of reminds me of the old mac commercials they ran till around 2005 with the blue screen of death even though that was a windows98 issue and didnt really exist in xp which had been out since 2001. In other words live in the present not in the past.

  • Syd Hancock
    January 5, 2010 | Permalink |

    The “Mandriva One” live CD is one CD. It also contains many drivers and codecs. Works straight out of the box for most cases and with a choice of KDE or Gnome available.

    HTH
    Syd Hancock

  • robenroute
    January 5, 2010 | Permalink |

    FWIW: I occasionally run Vista, and guess what's still in there: yes, the ominous BSoD…

  • January 5, 2010 | Permalink |

    I do prefer Mandriva UI for KDE.

    I'm using Mandriva at work on 75 workstations and 5 laptop, and this allow me to make the trasnition from KDE3 ( in mandriva 2009 ) to kde 4 ( in mandriva 2010 ) as smooth as possible.

    adding a plasmoïd is as easy as doing a right click on the desktop, so no issue for me. I noticed that users do prefer the default desktop view ( as done by mandriva ) instead of the folder view which disturbe them.

    I do agree concerning the ugly look of rpmdrake.

    Concerning the 5353 bug, you don't need to disable avahi ( even if i found it useless ). You shoudl told the Mandriva firewall to not monitor access to this port, and you're done.

  • Caig
    January 5, 2010 | Permalink |

    OpenSUSE offers two liveCD, one for KDE and one for GNOME. They are complete systems, also installable. http://software.opensuse.org/112/en

  • TeaAge
    January 5, 2010 | Permalink |

    Hmm nice Showdown but the conclusion …?

    I'm wondering about the ranking, because it seems only based on your taste of the look.
    Mandriva for example was best in Software, Configuration Center, Multimedia and Custimasation. Means 4 of 8 or 4 of 7 because Criteria 1 has no winner and than you put it on rank 3 with a “far behind”? Doesn't make much sense to me.

    On the other side is the look and feel very subjective and shouldn't have such a big meaning.
    But I have to say, I don't think it's ugly. May you prefer the One more than the Free (Free is somewhat “conservative”), so take a look at http://wiki.mandriva.com/de/Datei:2010_onetheme...

    Also the ranking with the software installer is a bit strange: You prefer deb over rpm (why?) both a great. You prefer zypper over urpm: why? You mentioned the function to download everything before the installation, which does urpmi support as well. And did you know, that you can remove orphaned packages with urpme?

    Nevertheless, reviews are always subjective. It's ok that you find Mandriva ugly or that you prefer deb over rpm (and zypper over urpm) but after your ratings on that 8 criterias, you should raise Mandriva to the second rank. Sum the ranks and you get openSUSE 13, Mandriva 13 and Ubuntu 16.

    Regards,
    TeaAge

  • Barnabyh
    January 6, 2010 | Permalink |

    Re. your closing line: Real men use Arch or Slackware.

  • bhaskarsharman
    January 7, 2010 | Permalink |

    Ubuntu 9.10 has too many bugs. i think they didn't test it on different hardwares. My configuration is amd athlon 3000+ with gigabyte motherboard+nVidia Geforce 6100 graphics card. but the newer version couldn't install as the installer not detecting my HDD. also for many years,they treat my computer as a poor one as i couldn't increase the resolution to normal(1024*768) from 640*480 or 800*600!
    also they should find a way so that everyone who don't have internet connection could fetch essential packages such as media player codecs, plugins for the disk writer,other utilities etc easily. i found almost 90% refuses it due to lack of these plugins.Also,for more than one year,I'm trying to get a DIAL-UP MODEM DRIVER!

  • wobo
    January 8, 2010 | Permalink |

    I admit that you took your time and efforts to compile this review. But as some of the others I also find some weird differences between your single reviews and your conclusion.
    1. in the “Software” department you put Mandriva on top because of the rich supply of software – in the shootout conclusion you use this as a negative point by saying “it's bloated software base”.
    2. In the installer section tell us about the old-fashioned look, while in the management area you praise the “slick gui” of the Mandriva control center, which has the same look as the installer!

    In the end I also agree with others that your main focus is on something which the user can change with a couple of clicks: the looks. You prefer deb before rpm, this is like Vi vs. Emacs, an almost religious war with no winner. Cut those 2 points and count again.

  • January 9, 2010 | Permalink |

    About the 95% problem part, even I have never faced a problem in my entire stint with Ubuntu other than a Partition Table corruption with Hardy Heron. That too was fixed in seconds by testdisk. The 95% is straight off public reports. You may Google for it.

  • January 9, 2010 | Permalink |

    See, KDE looks and DEBs v/s RPMs are all a personal preference. The majority would want KDE4 looking modern and would prefer Apt-Get due to its speed and simplicity. “apt-get update” is better than “yum makecache all”, from a simplicity point of view. But yes, there are many people like you who prefer KDE3 because they are so used to it, and RPMs because in the inside they are actually more robust than DEBs.

  • January 9, 2010 | Permalink |

    The conclusion is based on the all-round performance. Just because someone got the top in the highest number of criterias does not mean its the overall top. A distro may have no first places at all, but because of its consistent performance it makes it to the top in the end.

  • tinhed
    January 12, 2010 | Permalink |

    Those who are criticizing ubuntu for a lack of “out of the box” support, i suggest trying out linux mint. Its not ” ubuntu done right” as some people will like to point out.but it gives you lots of things peinstalled so you dont have to go searching. If you can keep up with its release schedule( which is 3 months behind ubuntu), its really worth a try. particularly for GNOME fanboys like me.

  • Aastra
    January 15, 2010 | Permalink |

    You're Very Funny (re: About Boudhayan Gupta). I don't know if your weblogs show the exact profile of users that access your blog (i.e. the browser identifier data), so if it doesn't: I'm running opensuse 11.2. I've definitely had the same experience as you wrt to Ubuntu's installation being unstable (and I have very generic hardware, i.e. intel centrino, intel GMA, dual core 64bit with Phoenix BIOS; i.e. a totally standard motherboard) and I cannot for the life of me understand the popularity of that distro nor the attraction to the horrible ugly brown color scheme they use (although come to think of it, opensuse's 11.2 default green-gooseshit login screen and desktop background color is pretty awful too). The thing that really blows me away is how can people live with Ubuntu's disgusting Gnome interface with it's cartoonish icon set. Anyway, that's not why I'm here to comment; Keep in mind that while opensuse might be very easy to install, with a superior install application than other major distros, the release itself tends to be less stable than the other distros (during the 1st 3-4 months after release). The opensuse release folks tend to less testing and burning in and tend to push the envelope too aggressively (especially when it comes to KDE4) than other mainstream newbie distros and that leads to serious instabilities in the running releases, whereas Ubuntu's devel's seems to value stability more and therefore do fewer and more conservative releases.

  • Kelvin
    January 29, 2010 | Permalink |

    I want to add a correction regarding “Criteria 7: Config centres” of page 4: Ubuntu actually has a “Config centre.” The Ubuntu menu — the bar that contains the logo — can be edited from a right-click menu to make the default “Preferences / Administration” into “Control Center.”

    right-click > “Edit Menus” > goto: sidebar (”Menus:”) >select: “System” > goto: center (”Items:”) > uncheck: “Preferences” & “Administration” > check: “Control Center”

  • February 17, 2010 | Permalink |

    I have been using OpenSuSe for more than 5 years now. What I found the best in “OpenSuSe” is its look………its user-friendly activities.

    I will not like to get indulge in any comparison between OpenSuSe with other Distros because I know that (inside stuff is same everywhere) its just the outer look that people are carried out with.

    To all new comers in Linux, I strongly recommend OpenSuSe.

    Believe me……….it rocks..

    DBS.

  • wobo
    February 17, 2010 | Permalink |

    > To all new comers in Linux, I strongly recommend OpenSuSe.

    To all new comers in Linux I strongly recommend $DISTROLIST_DW and then chose what suits your individual needs/taste/likings.

  • February 18, 2010 | Permalink |

    Ok, now we know the good the best and the ugly :)
    It seems that the Best is called fedora

  • Luke
    March 10, 2010 | Permalink |

    Well, way to critique! I had no errors with either of my Karmic setups, and their extremely low footprint was ideal for a system with 364 MiB of RAM and an ancient Intel P3 Coppermine! The implementation of the parts was amazing, and I was quite impressed with how the managers were so effective.

    In regards to your comment about the non-cohesive settings, Kubuntu addresses this well with its “System Settings,” which, impressively enough, carries its weight over to Gnome on the Gnome desktop when the KDE implementation is added on to the standard Ubuntu disc.

    Ubuntu help files were very complete, useful for novices, and their network and samba implementations worked with nearly all of the apps in the Ubuntu repositories, which ARE well set-up, especially if you hit the add/remove applications instead of the ubuntu software center. Ubuntu Software Center is the biggest “bug” of the entire setup, which you failed to mention. Oh well. Not your fault, as nobody’s perfect. I needed a reason to try OpenSuSe anyway.

  • March 19, 2010 | Permalink |
  • April 4, 2010 | Permalink |

    Balanced report. Tried Ubuntu, Mandriva and OpenSUSE and found OpenSUSE to be way more user friendly and have a much better GUI and fig tools. The installer is also better. Overall, your article confirms my own experience. I am in the process of switching from Ubuntu to OpenSUSE.

  • chuckeezin luv
    April 7, 2010 | Permalink |

    Hey, I thot OPEN SOOz was cool but once I tried to update it to the next version … I had problems
    I tried UBUNTU and it is a dream to update to the next version.. do not even have to leave the program… smooth baby… painless… I luv it…
    You can have OPEN soooozeee… it has some nice features…
    New people get UBUNTU.. it rocks like nothing else… DJ out…

  • cyberkhan
    May 12, 2010 | Permalink |

    I have tried many linux OSs, but finally i found Mandriva 2010 is the most easy to install and adopt. However you can also try OpenSuse and Fedora.

  • May 26, 2010 | Permalink |

    I ‘ve been using ubuntu from the past few months and I tried open suse and fedora too(dual or triple boot with window 7) and with my little experience I recommend ubuntu 10.04(latest released just on 29April) for all new users coming to the linux world.

  • Arup
    June 17, 2010 | Permalink |

    95% of Ubuntu noobs had issues with install, yet Ubuntu rules the distro watch list for eons, if you combine MINT, its overwhelming to say the least, where is SuSE, lowly 4th below Fedora. That explains it all.

  • July 15, 2010 | Permalink |

    Indeed, real men use Arch Linux.

  • July 19, 2010 | Permalink |

    I have been using OpenSUSE; it is easy to use for the most part and they have streamlined installations for a lot of software. I have not heard anyone mention this but if you are looking for a smaller initial install size, my OpenSUSE *CD* is only like 700 MB. In fact, that was one reason I tried it since my old PC didn’t have a DVD burner. I have had *some* functionality issues, but relatively few, and FAR less than any Windows user has. My multimedia laptop has tons of weird propitiatory drivers and I was *shocked* when OpenSUSE was able to install ALL of them without me doing anything! Startup and shutdown are fast and I like the look and feel of the KDE desktop.

    One annoying thing is that your first choice when you click on a file in a dialog window gets automatically selected which makes it harder to go through and find a certain file (like when you are uploading something) but once you’re used to it, it’s not that big of a deal. OS updates pop up automatically and install themselves. I did have some major functionality problems with media editing software such as Kdenlive. I’m not quite sure why at the moment. There is also some Microsoft video codec I come across now and then which I don’t have but I’m sure it is probably out there somewhere if I would look for it.

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