Fight Club: Windows 7 vs Mandriva 2009.1

The war has begun. Quite literally. The final release of Windows 7, the latest (and greatest?) version of Windows is just months away. We laid our hands on the RC (release candidate) available for free on Microsoft’s website, and took it for a spin against Mandriva 2009.1 Spring. Who won? The results are most surprising!

The hardware platform

We tested out both the operating systems on a pretty standard multimedia PC. The specs of the system are given below:

  • Processor: Intel Core2 Duo E7200 @ 2.53GHz, 45nm Core Fabrication, without Intel VT.
  • Memory: 2GB Transcend DDR2-800MHz JetRam
  • Chipset: nVidia nForce 630i MCP
  • Graphics (Onboard): nVidia nForce 630i/GeForce 7100
  • Graphics (PCIe): nVidia GeForce 9400GT
  • Networking: nVidia nForce MCP73 Networking Controller (Realtek RTL8139 Chip)
  • Sound: Realtek AC’97 8 Channel High Definition On-board Audio (ALSA: Intel_HDA)
  • Hard Disk (Primary): Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 320GB SATA2
  • Hard Disk (Secondary, Hosting our OSs): Western Digital Caviar 160GB 7200RPM SATA2
  • Display: Samsung SyncMaster 510N (15” or 38.1.cm, LCD-TFT, VGA Connection)
  • Mouse and Keyboard: Microsoft Digital Media K/B and Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse

Now that you know the specs of our system, it’s time to move on!

The packages compared

Both Windows 7 RC and Mandriva 2009.1 Spring (Free) come on single-layer DVDs. Windows 7 is a smaller download at 2.35 GB, whereas Mandriva weighs in at 4.34 GB, or 1.99 GB more. Both are ISO images, and have to be burned onto a disk.

Installation: Head-on

We started out by creating two empty unformatted partitions of 25 GB each on the shiny new caviare. Then, after starting the countdown timer, we started the computer with the Windows 7 RC DVD in the drive. A little while later, a plain text message greeted us: “Press any key to boot from CD or DVD” with a growing number of dots after it (it’s supposed to stay five seconds, after which it automatically boots from the hard disk). After a jab at the Enter key, the screen went blank.

Not for long. Just a split second later, a screen with the message “Windows Is Loading Files” along with a progress bar appeared. It then completed a graphical boot screen and displayed four balls converging into a Windows flag and a lot of HDR effects. The screen was set at the full 1024×768 pixels resolution, with 32-bit colour. Too little, too late: we already have this animated graphical boot capability in RHGB, which was demonstrated by Fedora 10.

The installer took almost a minute to start, which is way too long for our liking. Anyway, once it was up, a screen came up asking for language and locale selection. We selected English (India) as our language, and let the other settings be. Then we hit OK. A second screen came up, with a big ‘Install Now’ button amongst other things. We hit that as well. The set-up program thus got initiated, taking another minute to load. What’s with Windows and speed?

The first screen showed us a licence agreement. You know what Microsoft EULAs are! Anyway, without accepting it, we could not try it out, so we accepted it with a heavy heart. The next screen threw up a surprise: it was meant to ask us whether to upgrade or perform a new installation. Typical of Microsoft confusion-creating terminology, the new installation option is called ‘Custom’. But accompanying it was a common Microsoft Bug—the upgrade option was enabled, and below it was clearly stated, “The Upgrade option is enabled only when you are installing Windows from within an Operating System that can be upgraded to Windows 7.”

We hit the Custom button. A partition selection screen showed up, where we selected Disk 1 Partition 0 (which means the first partition of the second disk, which GRUB guys will know :-)). It was unformatted (as we had prepared it). We hit Next, and whoa, installation had started before we knew it. Installation took a long time, and at the end of it, the thing rebooted the PC into Windows 7. The first run wizard then asked for a user name, a password, and most annoyingly, a password hint. Now Microsoft is just slashing open a security hole by enforcing that feature. It put the PC through its paces, ran some hardware detection, asked what type of network we were in, and finally took us to the desktop.

Over the entire procedure, the set-up program had installed the Windows Boot Manager onto the first partition superblock and written a new MBR chainloading the first partition, thus effectively destroying GRUB. Windows XP was detected, but no sign of Fedora 10 remained. The entire procedure took 16 minutes plus user interaction time. Way too slow. On the upside, the Windows set-up looks very sleek and superbly streamlined, and it was a pleasure to actually install Windows, save the nasty Fedora busting surprise at the end (but it wasn’t supposed to work anyway).

Mandriva was a whole new story. We put the DVD in, and the first thing we knew was that a cool blue ‘fishy’ menu with some menu items for installing, rescuing, checking our hardware and booting from the first hard disk, had come up. We would have preferred a “Press any key…” prompt to save the overhead of starting the CD boot manager, however. We just hit Enter, and after a text-mode phase the GUI installer started up.

The Mandy installer doesn’t look anywhere near as sleek as Windows 7’s, and at first glance has twice as many steps compared to Windows’ set-up. The installer is arranged rather like Windows XP’s, with a list of steps stacked in a sidebar at the left of the screen, and wizard dialogs exactly like the WINNT32.EXE installer, only a lot prettier. The first screen is for selecting the system locale, of course. No English (India) here, so we had to settle for English (British). We accepted the licence agreement (which informed us that there was no warranty) and then moved on to partitioning. Partitioning manually was a confusing affair for a new user, compared to Windows 7. Then on, it was smooth sailing.

After selecting the root partition, we were asked if we wanted to configure additional repositories (for pulling in updated software from the Internet during installation). This was a feature of the Windows set-up since the days of Windows XP (Dynamic Updates), but was absent in the Windows 7 RC set-up. Anyway, we chose not to use these repos but rather pull the packages from our DVD. Then we were asked if we wanted a GNOME desktop or a KDE. We chose KDE, since it is more Windows like (though a bit more advanced), and is visually better. And then, installation started in full swing.

After the package installation was complete (throughout the progress one could choose to see a slideshow of Mandriva’s other products or read a text output showing each package’s install process), we were taken to the user configuration screen where we were asked for the root (administrator) password, and told to furnish the details of our user account. Here, there was no enforcement to furnish a password hint, and you could use a username other than your full name—two features absent in Windows and two features we really like. We were then asked where we’d like our bootloader to be installed—we chose the MBR of our first hard disk (the one with 320GB)—and then we were taken to the systems configuration screen where we could configure every aspect of the system prior to first boot.

We chose Asia/Calcutta as our time zone and India as our location. There was no need to tweak the bootloader, but we did that just for the sake of giving more descriptive names to the items rather than “linux”, “windows1” and “windows2”. Both our Windows installations were detected, as well as Fedora Cambridge (which had disappeared after installing Windows 7). Video configuration was interesting, where the system defaulted to “nVidia Cards not working with nv” (we were using the 9400GT; the onboard was disabled in our BIOS—and more on that later). That was all. We went through the next step (which asked us if we wanted to install security updates, to which we said, ‘No’) and then the PC rebooted, and Mandriva went through a first run wizard, somewhat like Windows XP’s ‘OOBE’ (out of box experience).

Ratings Windows 7 Mandriva 20091
Looks 8 5
Speed 16 minutes + user time 11 minutes + user time
Functionality 4 7
Comments Minimalist and pretty, sacrificing functionality Rather full blown, with high functionality, sacrificing looks
Overall user experience 5 6.5

About Boudhayan Gupta

The author is a 15-year-old student who suffers from an acute psychological disorder called Distromania. He owes his life to Larry Page and Sergei Brin. Apart from that, he enjoys both reading and writing, and when he's not playing with his Python, during most of his spare time he can be found listening to Fort Minor or cooking.

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  • Nice review.. Though I don't agree with many points. Hope you got my reply forwareded :P

    Anyway few pointers.

    1. Smplayer is available in FREE DVD, you just can't imagine the software libre it comes with it.. No no.. I am not talking about basic apps with De's .. Just look around the DVD again and you will find it.. It comes with VLC and plethora of other media players
    Just add eh DVD as the main medium for repositories in case it failed to do .. Mandriva Control Center -> Manage repo .

    2. Artwork in personal opinion but you seems to have chosen the wrong version. Mandriva didn't prioritize pimping the FREE edition. If you want a real test then either One or PWP edition should have been considered ..

    Have you tried Bespin style for KDE ? I wonder whats holding mandriva back to create a new refreshing theme . Laora is history now :P

    Anyway nice review once again.. Keep up the good work .

    P.s : You forgot to mention the stepping of your processor :P
  • Anshul Jain
    Boudhayan,
    Good review. I have to agree with you on almost all points about Mandriva...being a MDV user for almost 5 years now. The Ia Ora theme is dated and they could go with something like Skulpture and/or Bespin as pointed out by one of the earlier posters..

    I doubt if the Free versions ships with anything other than any Gstreamer-based video player. Totem's the only one I'm aware of. Smplayer and VLC...I doubt if any of them are in the Free or Powerpack Editions. You might want to visit http://easyurpmi.zarb.org and add the PLF repos to get full-fledged access to all patented stuff. This includes the Cleartype like font rendering which is disabled in the default MDV repos.

    Good to see that MDV is getting some press in India..as a MUG (Mandriva User Group) Rep from India, I really really appreciate your effort in putting together this review. Many thanks!!
  • ^^You have used mandriva for 5 years and you still haven't gone through the DVD .. Darn :|

    Try checking the DVD again.. /media/cdrom/i586/media/contrib it has vlc and smaplayer both .. It even has elisa, atunes, ardour, audacious, avidemux, and plethora of other stuf..

    How come you guys have not noticed it yet :|

    Just add the DVD as main repo and once you did, the rpmdrake the add/remove in mandriva will always prioritize installing stuff from DVD instead downloading, just make sure the dvd image is either copied in the system or the dvd is inserted while installing :P
  • LinuxLover
    One thing I want to point out is that KDE 4.2.2 can be made to be absolutely jaw dropping. The customization options aren't as good as the 3.5.x series, but it makes Windows customization options look paltry. I just installed Mandriva 2009.1 Free 64 bit and it only took me a couple of minutes to change the Plasma theme, background, etc. to make my desktop to look good, and I'm pretty much a KDE 4 newbie (like KDE 3.5.x better) so I had to find my way around.
  • "The next screen threw up a surprise: it was meant to ask us whether to upgrade or perform a new installation. Typical of Microsoft confusion-creating terminology, the new installation option is called ‘Custom’. But accompanying it was a common Microsoft Bug—the upgrade option was enabled, and below it was clearly stated, “The Upgrade option is enabled only when you are installing Windows from within an Operating System that can be upgraded to Windows 7.”

    This is not good piece of writing, Please moderate the content so that i does not look biased and one sided. This extract sounds ubsurd and the reader feels like the author is imposing his views on him/her.

    Please dont make things "obvious" and be neutral in your approach. I am Linux user for more than 7 Years now and feel that a Lot of Indian community finds fun in bashing microsoft rather than improving the the quality of open source software we build.
  • umm... any writer typically "imposes his/her views" on the readers. It's up to the reader to take what all s/he thinks is worth it. :-) Likewise, its very difficult to write something which is not "biased" and completely neutral. How will you justify biasness? Read the scores of Vista reviews published all over the Web -- most will typically compare it with XP, some with other operating systems. The moment you compare it with another OS, and note down flaws of the new system, you're basing your opinion on another system that you're familiar with. That's being biased. If I'm the manufacturer of the product, I can ask you: "Why can't you start getting used to the new way of doing the same thing instead of comparing?"

    As for the fun part in bashing MS, well what's wrong with a little bit of fun?

    Anyway, it's up to the readers to grasp the pun used in the paragraph you've quoted.
  • @Shashwat: I personally keep distro hopping and don't stick with one for long. I get VLC from the online repos; never cared to check out the contribs on the DVD. Yeah, I use all the contribs I can get from the online repos. Artwork -- after Win7 its a letdown. Looks do sell. Bespin? What the hell is that? I haven't really gotten hands on with KDE4 after this review. Waiting for KDE 4.3 (either an openSUSE DVD or the KDE4 Live CD that's become a regular with LFY). Perhaps you can enlighten us all on more holes that you find? Most appreciated :-)

    @Anshul & @LinuxLover: Thanks! This really makes a writer's day! :-D

    @Saurabh: Yeah, I may have been a bit too strong there, but Windows 7's Setup did annoy me a lot after Mdv's, if you know what I mean. And well, what's wrong in a bit of fun in bashing Microsoft? ;-)
  • Wind Milow
    I don't beleive in inferior propritery versions of any tools which hides their implementations from the developers world. I strongly support Open Source and i beleive the quote "Human Knowledge belongs to world" Mandriva is rocking... Happy Linux Happy Tux.

    People Lost their hope in the highway patrol(windows). The annoying WGA and loop holes in the security system and the vulnarabilities in windows pushing the users towards Linux and I am thankful to microsoft to get rid of windows for their loosy security whih pushed me towards linux. Since 1998 I am using linux along with windows and since 2006 i completely moved to Linux.
  • jmaster
    This is a highly biased review. Why do you think iPhone sells ? - Because it has got looks. Windows 7 beats mandriva hands down. You have rated mandriva higher than windows in multimedia capabilities which is grossly biased. It doesnt even ship with all the codecs and compared to it windows has Windows Media Center and coupled with win 7 codecs pack it easily beats mandriva. Regarding the functionality, windows 7 has a different philosophy and it is designed to be kept minimal. You can easily load windows with the gazillons of quality software - Nero, PowerDVD ships with every DVD player, Office suite - Office 2007 or OpenOffice.org and many others. Regarding the money concerns you can load open source
    software you use in linux easily in windows. What matters is the looks and win7 has got it and functionality can be easily extended with open source or proprietary apps.
    If you have a net connection installation of software is a cakewalk in Linux, but if you don't
    life can be a dependency hell.
    Regarding win7 being a memory hog, it doesnt matter. With prices of RAM falling every day, in 2-3 years memory usage of windows will look paltry. How about windows occupying
    1 GB of total 12 GB ?.
    Windows 7 is a beta product and it is supposed to have bugs. GNU/Linux doesnt have bugs but KDE 4 is full of them.
    Final Judgement - GNU/Linux is superb - i am in love with it and i use it regularly. I am a tech enthusiast and you need a bit of it to be able to flirt with Linux. But the desktop environments leave much to be desired. KDE/GNOME don't really match up to windows 7.
    I don't use windows but for those who just play games, watch movies, surf the net, edit with office and looks do matter and dont want the hassles associated with linux windows 7 is the best available option now and i recommend the investment in it.
    But every geek worth his salt must definitely use Linux.
  • jmaster
    You can run windows 7 on a pentium III comp with 96 MB of RAM and 1MB of video memory. Don't believe me check out the this link www.tinyurl.com/win7low
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